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October 5, 2005

Prat of the Year, first nominee: Guy Bowling

by Feòrag

United States: Ricky Shepard is your typical sixteen year old, engaging in the sort of petty rebellion common to that age group. His preferred method of yanking the crank of his elders is to be Wiccan, something that causes much distress to his school's headmaster:

Shepard confronted Principal Guy Bowling after he confiscated two seventh-graders' pentacles, the Wiccan equivalent to a Protestant's cross or a Jew's star of David...

...Shepard didn't persuade his principal to let the students wear the symbol. Instead, Bowling told Shepard to take off his pentacle chain before going to class.

By his own admission, the principal knows very little about Wicca, but having been advised by Shepard and his parents, it seems that they know very little about it too.

Bowling said he knew little about Wicca, and had mistaken the necklace's symbol for a pentagram, an upside-down version that symbolizes Satanism.

Which is, of course, complete and utter bollocks, the pentagram being the proper name for the symbol (a pentacle is something that goes on an altar), and the upside-down version being the symbol of the second degree is most Wiccan traditions. Despite his claim to have been Wiccan for many years, Shepard appears not to have progressed far enough to be aware of this.

But all is not yet hunky dory - the school is still prohibiting a Wiccan club, and seems willing to ignore the law to do so.

The Equal Rights Act requires secondary schools to permit clubs of all religions, including groups that deal with atheism, Satanism or Wicca. School districts can opt out of the act by not allowing any non-curriculum clubs. Priceville does have clubs, including Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

We are not going to have a Wiccan club. I don't think we need any more clubs at this time, Bowling, a Southern Baptist, said.

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1: Posted by: Sarah | October 5, 2005 11:26 PM

Don't be so hard on the kid, I've considered myself a Neo-Pagan for almost 8 years now and most of my friends are Wiccans, I've never heard of this whole "the upside-down version being the symbol of the second degree is most Wiccan traditions" thing. Or that a pentacle is something that goes on an altar and a pentagram is something you wear. My girlfriend was raised Gardnerian Wicca and I've learned more about that in the last year then I really ever thought possible, and I still have never heard any of this pentacle/pentagram stuff until today.

2: Posted by: Feòrag | October 6, 2005 3:22 AM

All of which explains why I gave up in despair and became an atheist.

3: Posted by: Logan | December 6, 2005 5:19 AM

I go to Priceville. My name is Logan and I know Guy Bowling... He's not a bad guy but he could really learn to be more tolerant. Our previous Principal Mike Green was also a Christian man but was much more tolerant. Guy Bowling is a great person but not the best leader. Mr. Bowling is constantly preaching in the school. He tries to be slick and tell the stories like they are his own but you can follow the story if you had a bible. I am I christian and I believe God is my lord and savior but I'm not gunna comdemn others for not believing that. This is america and I think that's the greatest thing about it. Everyone has their own opinions. I cannot stand people over react when I new idea come forward. It drives me mad Ricky did nothing wrong. I've known him for many years... he hasn't tried being a Wiccan long. I figure he just did it to spite Guy but who cares. Take it with a grain of Salt. I really hope Mr. Bowling would read this article just to know how I stand. I will not approach him and try starting anything but if asked will I repeat just what I said here. Thank you for allowing me to share and I'm sorry my principal was voted Prat of the Year ha.

4: Posted by: Kayla Diana | December 8, 2005 3:12 AM

My name is Kayla and I go to Priceville also. i am a strong Christian and I think it's awesome that Mr. Bowling has the courage to stand up for what he believes in. Goodness knows we all need a little God. But, Mr. Bowling's stories arent just about Christ and God... his stories have great moral principal... morals are something everyone should have, Christian or Non-Christian, Atheist, Penacostal, or otherwise. I can understand how someone would get offended, but I find it odd that Mr. Richard Shepard chose this year to start a "Wicca" club when he has supposedly been "Wiccan" for many years, and has been attending Priceville for at least 5 years. It is my firm belief that he started all this Wicca stuff just to get his name in the paper and make Mr. Bowling look bad, which i think is a discrace to him, his family, his school, and Wiccans in general. Ignorance is Bliss and i think some people need to stay that way, namely a certain sophomore. Thanks for listening.

5: Posted by: Feòrag | December 8, 2005 12:59 PM

The principal is obliged by law to allow all religious clubs, or have no clubs whatsoever. There are not only clubs at your school, but religious ones, so the strong moral message you are getting from your principal is that it is okay to break the law if you want. Doesn't sound very moral to me.

There's nearly a month to go, but he is definitely a strong favourite to win the Prat of the Year award.

6: Posted by: andrew | December 9, 2005 4:11 AM

Mr. Bowlings a great person. And i think he is a great leader in our school. He does so much to encourage students at our school. and he does so much extra to support us. and we repay him with this form of gossip and running him down like this is not right.

7: Posted by: andrew | December 9, 2005 5:01 AM

{quote} "Evangelism, witnessing and similar activitites go by one name here - advertising, and is no different from spam for viagra, penis enlargement products and pornography. We do not take advertising. If you want to advertise your imaginary friend, please spend your own money on your own web space to do so. Any attempts to use the comments section for advertisements will be deleted, and the perpetrator barred, unless they are particularly stupid, in which case I reserve the right to pinch an idea from Teresa Nielsen Hayden and delete all the vowels. "
{end quote}

It baffles me as to how you have reserved so much of you time and energy into a sight like this to show how much you hate someone who you claim to be imaginary ... i usualy dont waste my time arguing agaisnt imaginary beings . And regardless of it being your sight you dont seem to care to advertise your beliefs on this sight . I would find it fair that you would allow others beliefs to be shared also.
If indeed it be a fair argument i think both sides should be advertised openly .. not cencered according to your dissernment .. im not trying to run you down or insult you or create hard feelings ... i just noticed some particular things while looking around the sight that i disagreed with .. and of course me dissagreeing with it doesnt make it wrong . this is simply my standing on the matter.

8: Posted by: Whitney | December 9, 2005 5:08 AM

My name is Whitney and I go to Priceville High School as a sophomore. All my life I've been teased, taunted, and overall ridiculed over my height and indifference to being exactly like the other girls. I've never felt that Christianity was the "right" religion for me - after all, there are many, many religions for one to choose from, if any, and when Ricky took a stand for what he believed in, it inspired me to look more into Wicca. Basically, it's everything the principal said that it WASN'T; its not satanic, evil, or anything of the sort, and personally, prejudiced, insignificant imbeciles should learn about a subject before criticizing, mocking, and judging it. This may not be my religion (at the moment), but I won't sit back while something completely innocent is made a mockery of. Thank you for your time.

9: Posted by: Feòrag | December 9, 2005 11:44 AM

Whitney: it's really great that you followed up on something that you were told -- that sort of talent is required for any job that pays decent money (and contraindicated for the rubbish jobs - it'll get you sacked from those!)

Teasing happens to nearly everyone at school. It's a strange place, full of people learning who they are, what interests them, and making loads and loads of mistakes along the way (but hopefully learning from them). Insecurity is a fairly natural state for a teenager, and that can manifest itself with unpleasantness towards those who don't seem to be as insecure as they are.

Many students on this thread have commented on how supportive the school is -- I hope your problems never become bullying, and that support is there should it ever get bad.

10: Posted by: Feòrag | December 9, 2005 11:57 AM

Andrew: this is my site, for my use, hosted on a server paid for by the users. My views, as far as I express them ("religious people do the darndest things") are, in publishing parlance, 'editorial', not advertising (which is when a third party pays someone else to promote their product or viewpoint).

There is no law to prevent you paying for your own space in which to editorialise, or even to turn over entirely to advertising. There's even free space available—whole hosts dedicated to Christianity—check out this Google search for 'christian web hosting'. If you need advertising, there are schemes by which you can get only Christian ads to pay for your site.

11: Posted by: Jonathon | December 9, 2005 10:04 PM

I'm not gonna post my name,it's at the bottom. I'm a good friend of whitney and a christian myself. I'm a close friend of whitney and agree with her. People at our school would probably be mostly christan, but should that stop rickey's right to practice his religion, no. As a christan, i don't judge becauese that would go against being a christan. And that's really what's going on with alot of the people who support mr bowling. I've heard people say that he was a "bad person" while they go dressing like (as my fourms would say) corner girls. I know rickey and he's a good person who dosn't think of himself better then anybody else, unlike most of these supposed christans. And as me and others at our school have experienced, they will mock you and make you want to cut, attempt suicide, and even want to kill people. I hated going to our school because these people who call themselves christans think that they can do whatever they want and it's okay becasue "i'm a christan." I'm not saying that every christan at our schoo is like this, but alot of people might want to look at there sterotyped selves and there claims of being christan (more like a lie of being christan). Mr. bowling isn't a bad person but if he's going to be in america, he beter respect other's religion. That's all i'm going to say.

12: Posted by: Michelle | December 10, 2005 3:15 AM

When the article was printed, my class spent all of first period researching exactly what Mr Bowling was so against. By the end of class, we found out that it is not a form of Satanism, there is no slaughtering of helpless animals, and there are no human sacrifices. There was nothing wrong with there being a Wiccan club. Mr Bowling just did not think a religous club like that would be "proper" in a school, even though we have Fellowship of *Christian* Athletes. Plus, we all know that if a Baptist club or "JESUS ROCKS!" club was trying to be formed, he'd back it up. It is not fair to anyone with different beliefs, and something should be done for them.
However, aside from the religious problems, Mr Bowling is a great principal. He has given us more freedom in the hallways compared to Mr Green. He allows clubs to host fun events during school hours, such as the Class Olympics for SGS. He rewards good grades with a movie after every report card. Overall, he is not a bad person. He just needs to be more accepting of others' beliefs.

13: Posted by: Feòrag | December 10, 2005 4:27 PM

It's not just a matter of whether Mr. Bowling needs to be more tolerant, or whether he should treat his students fairly, or whether or not he's a nice person really, although those things are important in his job. What matters is his blatant disregard for the law and his attitude that, if the law does not suit his beliefs, he's just going to ignore it. I'm not sure that's a very good example to be setting young people and he's in a job where he's supposed to be setting a good example.

14: Posted by: BOB | December 13, 2005 1:19 AM

hello im bob and i also go to the p-vizzle high school and i think mr bowling is an idiot
he suspended me for 3 days erleir in the year for being "disrespectful" to some loser who our wonderful principal got in our shcool to sing some gospel music i HATE HIS FREAKIN GUTS he is a dumbass.

15: Posted by: Red Wolf | December 13, 2005 2:31 AM

Judging by the comments left by purported Priceville High School students, it appears that Guy Bowling needs to be spending less time worrying about religion and more time teaching the basics of literacy. After all, that is meant to be the purpose of schools. His lack of leadership in this area is what will really harm his students.

16: Posted by: Sabrina | December 14, 2005 3:32 AM

Hello, I'm Whitney's and Jonthan's Friend. I agree with them on the subject at hand. I agree that Mr. Bowling should be more tolerant of diffent religons. But I do apprecaite the movies and snack. I disagree that he should ignore what he dosn't want to follow. But on this matter both Ricky Shepard and Mr Bowling are in the wrong of taunting each other with this subject of religion.
But they both have a right to say there opion. But not saying it is the only choice.
They the school have let us make the club. But they did it on a day when Ricky was not at school that day. For that we could not meet. I think that was not right for them doing that. But My opion is my own. An you may choose to act on it or no But I Would like a calm of this debate soon for it seems is no more then a disagrement that could have been saved this trouble we have go though for almost no reason that is worth having petty squables over.
But that is my opion and I let you make your own choice for that this is America.

17: Posted by: Jeremy | December 18, 2005 7:10 AM

I think Mr. Bowling is a great guy and what he is doing is for the best. The whole world out here needs to hear what he has to say because without that you will burn in hell forever. Would you like that. No you wouldnt. Mr. Bowling is awesome and i back him up 100%.

18: Posted by: Jeremy | December 18, 2005 7:10 AM

I think Mr. Bowling is a great guy and what he is doing is for the best. The whole world out here needs to hear what he has to say because without that you will burn in hell forever. Would you like that. No you wouldnt. Mr. Bowling is awesome and i back him up 100%.

19: Posted by: TylerJ | December 19, 2005 3:57 AM

I love Mr. Bowling. He’s a great principal, friend, and Christian. Even though I'm a child of God, I do disagree with a few things he says. The rule is - if anyone wants to start a club, he must have a teacher as their sponsor. If a teacher wanted to sponsor a Wiccan club, it would be illegal for Mr. Bowling or anyone else to stop them.

When I first found this page in it's early childhood stage, I notified Mr. Bowling of it. He told me he wasn't worried about what people's been saying.



www.TylerJ.org

Tyler's Blogg



20: Posted by: Feòrag | December 20, 2005 12:15 PM

You know, for someone who doesn't care what people are saying about him, he seems desparate enough to have asked his pupils to support his bigotry and illegal behaviour at this tiny little foreign site.

21: Posted by: Jeremy | January 5, 2006 2:59 AM

you know what feorag maybe were juss standing up for what we believe in. i havent even talked to mr. bowling about this and he would probably tell me to not wry about it but im a Christian and im gonna stand up for him because what he is doing is right

22: Posted by: Magical Truthsaying Bastard Spidey | January 5, 2006 3:47 AM

Does this alleged school have good machine shop and home economics tracks? Its students, or at least the ones who have been posting here, do not seem likely to succeed in college.

23: Posted by: Feòrag | January 5, 2006 1:30 PM

Jeremy: It seems that you haven't spoken to any teacher at any point in your school career. Rather than standing up for bigotry, perhaps you should spend some time on your studies, so that you do not look like a total ignoramous in public. Here, let me help. If you pay attention to the following, it might not be too late for you to get a job anywhere other than a fast food outlet:

1. The first word of a sentence should start with a capital letter.

2. "Feòrag" is what is known as a "Proper Noun". It therefore takes an initial capital letter. Please note that this word also contains an accent, which affects its pronunciation and should therefore be included.

3. Commas have many uses. They can indicate a natural pause, or separate ideas, or list items. There should be one between my name and the word "maybe" and between "about it" and "but".

4. The word is "just", not "juss".

5. The apostrophe is an extremely useful punctuation mark. For example, you have used "were", a past tense form of the verb "to be". I suspect you meant "we're", a contraction of "we are". See that little mark? That's what makes the meaning clear and stops you looking like an idiot.

6. The first sentence is a question. You can indicate this by using a question mark (?) in place of the full stop/period.

7. "Mr. Bowling": both his title and name should take initial capital letters. In fact, it's terribly disrespectful to spell his name the way you have.

8. The word "wry" is an adjective used to describe something which is funny in a dry way. It is not a noun: you cannot "wry". Have a look on the floor around you as I suspect that you dropped a couple of letters when you were composing your comment using the big, colourful, magnetic, lower case letters.

9. "Im" is German. It means "in", in certain grammatical contexts. As you haven't managed to learn English yet, and your name suggests you are a native speaker of English, there's no way you've even started on German (don't try, by the way—the grammar is much more evil and pedantic than English grammar). Of course, this could be another one of those pesky apostrophes.

10. "Gonna" is accceptable only in spoken English, or when quoting spoken English. The correct form is "going to".

So, that's ten errors in two sentences, not counting repeated errors, nor taking into account the fact that the comment should really have been three sentences.

May I suggest that Mr. Bowling, rather than encouraging you all to spout superstitious bigotry, should get on with his job: ensuring that you have a good enough education to cope when you grow up. Being able to communicate in your native language is a fundamental part of that, and your school is clearly failing on that front.

Of course, having said that, it's interesting to note that the students who are most critical of Mr. Bowling's bigotry are the ones most able to write in English. Perhaps it really is the case that bigots are stupid?

24: Posted by: Jeremy | January 11, 2006 11:49 PM

well FEORAG i could care less about my grammer right now cause this is not grammer school. and plus instead of me spelling feorag right how about you put your real name and umm also i would like to know do u go to priceville and if not quit listening to the gossip you hear about mr. Bowling cause he does his job. and i would like to know where you go to school(if you do) and if you go to college. and ohh by the way more than half the teachers at the school are on his side so umm just back off [advertising deleted] if you dont like that than so be it but i do and im a Christian buddy

25: Posted by: Red Wolf | January 12, 2006 12:02 PM

You can almost hear the impending coronary as Jeremy battled with the evil shift key to pound out his nonsensical reply.

i could care less about my grammer right now cause this is not grammer school

With humour like this, he won't just be working behind the counter at the local fast food outlet, he'll be wearing the clown suit and silly wig while wrangling screaming sprogs at the outlet's kiddy parties. Jeremy still seems confused about the meaning of the word "school".

im a Christian buddy

So Jeremy would be a small plastic novelty item you adhere to the dash of a car by licking the suction cup on his base? I wonder if he also has the creepy head-nodding action.

26: Posted by: Feòrag | January 12, 2006 1:30 PM

Red Wolf: I suspect Jeremy will not get the basic qualifications required to get a job as a small plastic novelty item. All that sitting there doing nothing but nodding requires much more intelligence than he appears to have.

Still, if this school is typical of those in the US, we can see clearly why their economy is fucked.

27: Posted by: Jeremy | January 14, 2006 6:21 AM

For yalls information i am a Senior at Priceville High School and rather you wanna believe it or not ive already been asked to help coach a football team and go to college and the same time to get my degree to be a math teacher and coach football but if you dont want to believe me that fine cause im not going to lie to you.

28: Posted by: Feòrag | January 14, 2006 10:38 AM

We're talking about you Jeremy, not to you.

From what I've heard (admittedly entirely via LiveJournal and Doonsbury), US colleges and universities require you to write essays for admission (unless you are potential NFL material), so unless you learn English, you won't get in. Even with mathematics, you need to be able to communicate what it is you are teaching, and communication is not your strong point.

At least I'll never meet you as an adult—I don't do fast food.

29: Posted by: Jeremy | January 14, 2006 8:58 PM

Well feorag your a smart elic and i really could care less if you believe me or not thats your problem not mine

30: Posted by: Red Wolf | January 15, 2006 12:15 PM

With that scintillating wit and scathing comeback, why is Jeremy not on the debating team? Oh, that's right, he's illiterate and has the emotional maturity of a tadpole.

If not a career in fastfood, I suspect Jeremy will be hearing the phrase "Clear up in aisle nine" a lot.

31: Posted by: Feòrag | January 15, 2006 4:07 PM

It amuses me the way his English comprehension is so poor that he thinks that I don't believe him about his ambitions, even though what I said is that I don't think he can achieve them until he learns English. And the counterproductive "No Child Left Behind" nonsense requires teachers to have a degree in the subject they teach. I doubt he'll get too far at university thinking that π=3.

Then there's this: Stupid in America. Of course, the person doing the research is a stupid American Libertarian and therefore claims the problem is "that public education in the USA is a government monopoly", ignoring the fact that that's the case in Belgium too.

32: Posted by: Jeremy | January 15, 2006 9:59 PM

How about this why are you so worried about my english anyway thats my business not yours this site was made because stupid people like you believe witchcraft and then when someone stands up for what they believe in yall get all upset over it and now try to blame everything cause i dont know my english and what i do in life is my doing not yours so go on with your job maybe yours is the "do you want fries with that" or "clean up on isle nine" because yall keep trying to bring it on me.

33: Posted by: Anonymous | January 16, 2006 8:58 PM

[Advertising deleted: the 'person' who cannot read simple English was Baller30483@MSN.com.

34: Posted by: Red Wolf | January 17, 2006 10:28 PM

Ah, Jeremy, too thick to bother reading through the Prattle to grasp the simple purpose of its existence.

It's a safe bet that Jeremy has no chance of securing a job that pays more than slave labour rates if he can't understand the difference between aisle (a passageway between shelves, seats or even pews) and isle (a small island).

English is a difficult language. It's the little things, like a missing letter, that can alter the meaning of text entirely and make you look like a bigger prat than you already are.

35: Posted by: Feòrag | January 18, 2006 2:49 AM

English can't be that hard—after all, look at the number of non-native speakers you know who are better at it than Jeremy. In my case, the people I know who have successfully learned English have done so after (or even at the same time as) Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Dutch, Gaelic, Polish, Thai, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Russian, Ukranian and no doubt several others. I wish I was half as good at any of my additional languages as they are at English.

36: Posted by: Val Dobson | January 18, 2006 8:12 PM

I do hope Mr Bowling is still reading this, and taking careful note of which of his students need remedial English classes.
And Jeremy, if you're reading this, here's a good online spell-checker: www.spellcheck.net.

37: Posted by: Jeremy | January 18, 2006 10:39 PM

Well umm Val Dobson it looks to me like you misspelled online so now you can keep your mouth shut cause you have no room to talk and ohh by the way how i write my words and how my english is has nothing to do with your business.

38: Posted by: Jeremy | January 18, 2006 10:42 PM

I would like to meet you Red Wolf and Feorag cause i have some things i would like to say to you two. Ohh and by the way don't you even dare tell me you've never misspelled a word or abbreviated something cause everyone on this earth has and there is nothing wrong with it. If its such a sin to misspell a word then its also a sin for this crap your doing cause you're not acting right here putting sites up about people and there lives. Its a free country and he can do what he wants and over half the people in this town are on his side.

39: Posted by: Red Wolf | January 18, 2006 11:50 PM

Ah, the old free speech card.

It's all fine and dandy to be an ignorant, ill-educated, small-minded fundamentalist loon, but it's no longer a free country if you happen to point out that someone is an ignorant, ill-educated, small-minded fundamentalist loon.

There's a word for that. Jeremy may never have heard of it in the exclusive, sheltered world in which he dwells, where he appears to be actively encouraged not to think for himself; but that word is hypocrisy.

He also seems unable to grasp the difference between the understandable typo that Val made and his own complete lack of spelling, punctuation and grammar. Val makes a clear point that is easy to comprehend, despite a small typing error. Jeremy on the other hand, writes incomprehensible drivel, the meaning of which is in question because he has no grasp of simple communication skills.

Jeremy misses the point, yet again. He does seem determined to prove both the appalling state of education at his school and that some people wouldn't know a clue if it walked up behind them and hit them with a house brick.

40: Posted by: Feòrag | January 19, 2006 12:43 PM

Jeremy: you need to learn the difference between a typographical error (or 'typo') and a spelling mistake. Classic typos include the transposition of letters ('teh'), the hitting of two keys at once ('bvastard') and hitting a key adjacent to that which was intended ('crows' for 'crowd'). They are forgivable. Spelling mistakes are caused either by a lack of knowledge of how to spell the word in question (for example, any word written by yourself), or dyslexia. Only the latter of these is forgivable. The former is only forgivable in very small children, or if the misspeller is determined to learn the correct spelling and never make the same mistake again.

Understanding these subtle distinctions will lead to fluency in English, and the hope of a place at college or university.

The odds of you being able to come and see us will be increased by your getting a degree and a job which pays enough to cover the air fares. Here's a hint - a 'round the world' ticket will be much cheaper than separate transatlantic and transpacific tickets, and you'll get to see a few more interesting places on the way. We both live in countries where the official language is English, so you will have to learn that language first. You may enter my country under the terms of the Visa Waiver Scheme; Red Wolf's nation is a little fussier (especially if you are a Person of Colour) and you will need a visa. These are available online and are cheap compared to the air fare.

Because the US treats tourists wishing to enter the country the same way as any other nation treats people who have been arrested on suspicion of a crime, I am no longer willing to travel there. Sorry.

41: Posted by: Val Dobson | January 21, 2006 6:10 PM

Hi Jeremy. Good to see you following my recommendation and using a spellchecker - handy things, aren't they?
And hi to Mr Bowling, too - if he's still reading, as I hope he is. It would be nice if he came in on the discussion.

42: Posted by: Courtney | January 22, 2006 1:50 AM

Good evening,
I would just like to say that I have known Jeremy for about three years now, and even though he is not the best with Grammar, he is extremely intelligent. He makes good grades, and is overall a decent person. And I admire that he stands up for what he believes in. I personally think that this discussion has gone on long enough. Agree to disagree and move on.

Futhermore, I feel that Mr. Bowling is an excellent principal, and he does the best he possibly can. And even if he did approve this club, which I personally have no problem about, it is highly doubtful that the Alabama Board of Education would pass it. Its a free country after all, and everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I am a Christian, and I am proud to have a principal who I can actually look up to. He is a good man, but a sinner, as we all are. But I also understand where the other students are coming from. Although,in this particular situation, I feel that both Ricky and Mr. Bowling are at fault. It should not have gone as far as it has.

Ridicule me if you wish, but I have spoken how I feel, and I have nothing more to say.

Goodnight to you all,
Courtney

43: Posted by: L. Marlin Bowling "Bro. of Guy | January 25, 2006 2:51 AM

Thank you Courtney, well said.

I have know Guy for 46 years. All he wants is what is best for his students.

44: Posted by: Feòrag | January 25, 2006 11:11 AM

Mr. Bowling (brother thereof), your point brings us back to the core of the matter: how can teaching your students that you should break the law to suit your prejudices possibly be considered good for students? Also, how is failing to make sure that the pupils have basic English language skills "doing what's best" for them?

45: Posted by: Feòrag | January 25, 2006 11:19 AM

Courtney: are you old enough to make simple decisions like whether or not to buy a pint of beer in your local bar? Are you old enough to make the slightly more complicated decision of whether or not to have sex? If not, you are definitely not mature enough to make decisions regarding big stuff like religion. You might be from a Christian family, but religion isn't race - you have to make a decision about it, and it's an adult decision.

Also, saying "I am a Christian", as you and several of your peers have done, cuts no ice in these parts. You might as well say "I am over six years old and still have an imaginary friend so you must take me seriously". Saying it devalues your words.

46: Posted by: Jeremy | January 25, 2006 10:02 PM

Well Feorag who died and made you king. I'm seventeen years old and I'm a Christian and proud to say it. You don't have to be an adult to be a Christian because i was saved at fourteen and I'm 100% sure that if i died today I'm goint to heaven with Jesus. Now can you say that?

47: Posted by: Courtney | January 26, 2006 1:07 AM

Yes, well, I must say that I strongly disagree. Just because I am a minor makes no difference in my views on religion. I am old enough to know right from wrong, and to know that God saved me from going to Hell. I have morals and values, yet I understand that some teens my age do not seem to have attained those yet. Some teenagers are more intelligent than adults think we are. I'm not saying I am the smartest seventeen year old in the world, not at all, but I am old enough to know about my personal beliefs. Maybe not others, but mine.

48: Posted by: Red Wolf | January 26, 2006 11:09 AM

Jeremy was saved at fourteen? What? Is somebody collecting a set? Does it devalue the collection when he escapes his mylar baggie and dribbles on the keyboard?

49: Posted by: Feòrag | January 26, 2006 12:13 PM

It's because teenagers think they know it all that we have things like ages of consent, and minimum ages for drinking and smoking.

Religion is even worse than smoking as it kills other people (read the Prattle regularly for examples) yet rarely kills the believers. At least smokers are killing themselves too.

The fact that we allow children like Jeremy to be involved in such dangerous delusions is a saddening indictment of our policymakers' priorities. Look what it's done to him - he's an intolerant, illiterate prat with an overinflated sense of entitlement, and an inability to work out that getting the future he wants will involve hard work on his part. Raping children's brains that way is as bad as actually raping them.

50: Posted by: Feòrag | January 26, 2006 12:29 PM

Jeremy (talking to you, not about you for once):

(a) learn to spell my name. I know it's not English, and has one of those tricky accents in it, but it's still not complicated.

(b) the answer to your question is no-one. I'm an adult and capable of making these decisions. You are a child, and are not. And what happens when you die depends on whether you are buried (and what you are buried in makes a difference - lead-lined coffins are fun), cremated, buried at sea, excarnated or freeze-dried and turned into compost. The end result is always fertiliser though, whether directly or as bird shit.

51: Posted by: Val Dobson | January 27, 2006 10:31 AM

Jeremy & Courtney - I'm not a Christian, but I've debated with plenty of Christians on various forums. One of the things that many of them point out is that merely "being saved" (i.e. saying the magic words "I accept Jesus Christ as my saviour") is not enough to make you a Christian. What makes you a Christian, they say, is BEING a Christian. That is, emulating Christ in everything you do and say, constantly asking yourself "WWJD?", and showing the love of Christ in how you deal with people and situations.
In fact, to paraphrase Maggie Thatcher, "If you have to tell people you're a Christian, then you ain't!"
So, Jeremy, I know you're young, and obnoxiousness is a trait of teenagers (I know, I've reaised four of 'em). But you can still start BEING a Christian, instead of just shouting about it.

52: Posted by: Courtney | January 27, 2006 11:50 PM

Val Dodson - Yes, I see where you are coming from. I do try to act as a true Christian should, but I'm still a sinner, and I am by no means perfect. Jeremy is the same way. Sometimes he may seem kind of harsh, but he tries to act like a Christian and his parents have brought him up well. He is one of my best friends and he really is a good guy, and he's very caring. Sometimes I wish I could be more like him. But I do agree with that you say. Have a wonderful evening =)

53: Posted by: Andy Gilmour | January 28, 2006 10:08 AM

It's so hard to resist demanding some kind of burden of proof, isn't it? So ridiculously tempting. It's calling out, like a primeval urge, "Demand some proof...they make the claim to truth based on supernatural authority...go, on, have some fun, play with their fragile little minds!".

:-)

But I won't. Pity and compassion above all else, eh?

I'm married into US creationism (the in-laws), and sad to say these kids aren't even remotely the worst you'll encounter. Well, actually, I might be assuming there. Jeremy in particular does sound as if he might challenge a science teacher expounding on the age of the planet/rocks/etc with the wonderfully inane "How do you know? You weren't there! Only God knows, because he was THERE!".

More interesting (and worrying) representation of mainstream USA at www.agapenews.org

Well worth a look to see what's going to be heading our way afore too long.


54: Posted by: Jeremy | January 28, 2006 4:49 PM

[Advertising deleted]

55: Posted by: Val Dobson | January 29, 2006 4:37 PM

"Believe in Jesus or burn in hell!" Way to go Jeremy - that's certainly convinced me to become a Christian!
I really hope that's not how you're going to teach maths to your future students:
"Sir, why is three the answer to this sum? When I do it, it comes out as seven...."
"It's three because I say the answer is three! And because the maths textbook says it's three! And because if you don't believe it's three, then you're gonna burn in hell forever!!"

56: Posted by: Feòrag | January 29, 2006 7:29 PM

Did Jeremy's lack of English mean he wasn't able to read the bit at the top of the comment form that says:

Evangelism, witnessing and similar activitites go by one name here - "advertising", and is no different from spam for viagra, penis enlargement products and pornography. We do not take advertising. If you want to advertise your imaginary friend, please spend your own money on your own web space to do so.

I'm afraid I was busy studying (a word Jeremy might need to look up in a dictionary), so I didn't notice his attempt to grab some free advertising. I will go and fix it forthwith. I suppose this is the sort of behaviour you get when you go to a school where the principal says that it is okay to break rules if you don't agree with them.

Still, at least he's reminded me that Christianity is just a protection racket for the gullible, and no doubt he will tell his pastor with pride how he drove at least two people even further away from Jesus.

57: Posted by: Jeremy | February 3, 2006 3:37 AM

[Advertising deleted]

58: Posted by: Red Wolf | February 3, 2006 1:04 PM

Why is Jeremy confusing a passage in a book of fairy tales with a phone number? Who is this Yall that he seems hell bent on brainwashing into his illiterate cult of the unquestioning? And didn't he recently have a major dummy spit, say he'd given up on ranting at the godless heathens and buggered off back to training for a future of menial service?

59: Posted by: Feòrag | February 3, 2006 4:07 PM

You know, Red Wolf, it seems that Jeremy really is taking his Principal as a role model, and is following his example in thinking that rules don't apply if you don't agree with them. As almost any job requires you to follow rules, at least in the early stages, I think he's destined for a life relying on the Salvation Army.

60: Posted by: Jeremy | February 9, 2006 9:41 PM

You know its quit funny you keep deleting everything i say. Is there a problem with it. Is the truth to much to handle?

61: Posted by: Feòrag | February 10, 2006 11:30 AM

Jeremy - there are things called 'rules', and this site has remarkably few. The most important of those is that advertising is not allowed. This is mentioned, in English, on the comment posting form. To clarify matters, there is also a sentence defining what is considered to be advertising. I'll repeat it here - get someone who understands English to have a look at it and translate it into Idiot for you:

Evangelism, witnessing and similar activitites go by one name here - advertising, and is no different from spam for viagra, penis enlargement products and pornography.

I know your principal told you that it is okay to break rules if they do not suit you, but we've already determined that he's a prat. If you keep up this attitude, then your future will probably be behind bars, being used as an unwilling sex toy by a large gentleman called Bubba who has several convictions for sexual violence.

62: Posted by: Ariel Allen | February 25, 2006 10:33 PM

Hi I am a student at Priceville high school and I think Mr.Bowling is the coolest principal a school could have.U may disigre with me but that is your thought.the thing whith ricky and Mr.B. is nothing to get so mad about. o.k. I do agree with Mr.B. not to let ricky have that club. I am also a Christain.I am as pround of that as I am being a Bulldog.If u know me U know that is alot. What i do not get is why is it in the news. Where they trying to get Mr.B. in trouble.I mean good gref.

63: Posted by: Feòrag | February 26, 2006 11:28 AM

The reason it persists in being in the news is because it has become obvious that his students now believe that it is okay to break laws they don't agree with, and keep saying that his illegal discrimination is a good thing to have done.

64: Posted by: Val Dobson | February 26, 2006 2:01 PM

Why hasn't Mr. Bowling told his students to stop posting here? They're demonstrating that his school's literacy teaching is completely inadequate.
Ariel, if you want to know why we are so critical of your principal, please read the original post, and Feorag's responses. Do that, then come back and post your response (please run it though a spellchecker first - it will only take a moment).
Thank you.

65: Posted by: Jeremy | February 26, 2006 9:13 PM

Who cares is Ariel spells right. According to my knowledge this site is about what we believe not how we spell. If she wants to spell wrong then good grief let her. Quit trying to change the whole subject about this site and get back to what it is about and thats what we believe and how we view Mr. Bowling. He is doing what he thinks is right and I'm going to back him up and so are many other people so get over it.

66: Posted by: Jeremy | February 26, 2006 9:13 PM

[Exactly the same as the previous comment. Impatient child, isn't he?]

67: Posted by: Ariel | February 26, 2006 11:36 PM

thank you Jeremy.I was being to wander were this was going.As far as Mr.Bowling reading thes statements go I do hope he dosent. I think he would get mad to see so many ediots at his school.as for what Bob said yearler that friend of Mr.B.'s is cool that song he sang was very good.no one cares if Bob hates eny one you are the D A.if you are going to say enthing about Priceville atlest spell it rite.I do not mean to ofend you feorg but do you even know Mr.B.If you don't why are you here.same to anyone.I know that sents this page was posted Mr.B is going for a spot in the bord of education. he will get it. so now he will be shinning his lighht in every school in the county of morgan not just Priceville.Thank you for your time.if enyone wants to know what is realy going on at Priceville high e-mail me [censored - for reasons explained below]

68: Posted by: Feòrag | February 27, 2006 12:00 AM

Notice how Jeremy is still so stupid that he posts twice. I wonder if he'll be stupid enough to repeatedly bend over to get the soap when asked in the prison he ends up in. After all, he agrees with Mr. Bowling that it is okay to break the law if you don't agree with it...

Arial - don't post your e-mail address in a public place where you have already made it obvious that you are a teenage girl. This is really, really not clever. I'll delete it.

69: Posted by: Jeremy | February 27, 2006 5:10 AM

Hye Feorag dum dum. I accidently hit the post button twice for your info. So quit being such an idiot and saying crap. And plus how am I breaking the law?

70: Posted by: Feòrag | February 27, 2006 12:27 PM

How can you 'accidently' hit a button twice? It requires a positive action - either clicking on the mouse twice, or hitting return twice. I should see a doctor about those shakes if I were you. I'm sure it's affecting your ability to play football.

As for how you will end up in prison, I will explain using (mostly) short words for you:

1. Your principal breaks the law when he discriminates against a student on religious grounds.

2. You say that this is right, even though it is against the law. You say that he is a role model.

3. Therefore, you think that it is okay to break the law if you do not like the law.

Are you with me so far?

4. You are unable to write in English.

5. Therefore, you do not get a place in college because your form was filled in really badly.

6. You apply for a job at McDonalds. You fill in the bit where it asks you why you want to work there. No-one can work out what language it is meant to be. The job goes to a Somali refugee who has only been learning English for six months, but is also fluent in French.

7. No-one else will employ you either, because you cannot write English. They think you must be an illegal immigrant or something, using a fake name.

8. Your parents get fed up with you not having a job, not going to college and generally being useless. They threaten to throw you out of the house unless you attend remedial English classes, which they will pay for, because you are their son.

9. You think they are bluffing. You tell them "Who cares is I spells right? If I wants to spell wrong then good grief let me."

10. Your father calls you a "useless parasitic bum" and you are homeless.

11. You are hungry. You are a Christian and you deserve food. The law on stealing is wrong, and Mr. Bowling said it was okay to break the law if it was wrong. You try to steal some food.

12. You have not read any books on stealing, nor spoken to anyone who has stolen and not been caught. You are no good at stealing and the store detective spots you a mile off.

13. In court, your lawyer tries to argue that you were poorly educated and had bad role models. The judge has read what you wrote here and decides that you need to learn a lesson (for a change). He sentences you to prison, and also (because American judges can do this) insists that you are given English lessons and are not released until you can write in English. He has also been reading the legal research journals and knows many criminals are illiterate, like you, and that teaching someone to read and write is the best way to stop them reoffending.

14. You are in jail for a very long time.

71: Posted by: Ariel Allen | February 27, 2006 9:47 PM

Look here now, Mr.Bowling never broke any law.I have done some research and found out that to have a club at any school or any club you most have a teacher to sponcer it.I do not appreciate you guys saying and accuseing my buddy of crime he has not done.Thank you for your time.(Feorag you need to calm down give Jeremy a break eneryone makes mastakes o.k, thanks)

72: Posted by: Red Wolf | February 28, 2006 9:20 AM

It appears that Jeremy has found a playmate even more illiterate than he is.

It has been pointed out repeatedly that Mr Bowling broke the law when he discriminated against a student on religious grounds. Learn this rule well, children. Both Jeremy and Ariel seem to be under the mistaken belief that because they like Mr Bowling and share a religion with him, that this makes breaking the law a good thing.

As neither Jeremy nor Ariel have shown any evidence of an education, it's too much ask them to recall their history lessons, but I'm sure they're both quite capable of tuning into the news to see that breaking the law for religious reasons can turn into a war. This is nothing new and has been going on for centuries. Above everything else, this should illustrate why it is not a good example to follow.

Another point that Jeremy and Ariel have missed is what the Pagan Prattle is about. It is not a newsletter for pagans. Instead, it reports on the stupid things people do to themselves and others in the name of religion. Any religion, we're equal opportunity around here. This includes people who think that the law does not apply to them because of their beliefs.

It's just a treasure trove of missed clues, isn't it. And here's another... This is not a public forum. Visitors do not have the right to dictate how the site owners and contributors conduct their business. If anyone has a genuine concern, the proper behaviour would be to leave a coherent comment stating your points and it will be received and responded to in a polite and civil manner.

If, however, people choose to leave cryptic examples of their insanity in lieu of a comment, do not be surprised if the Prattle staff, their friends and various elder gods take sport in the traditional game of baiting the stupid.

Once against, for the slow members of class, fortunately neither Feòrag or myself are students at Priceville. We do not care if Jeremy or Ariel are destined for either a life behind bars or one breeding semi-retarded children after getting knocked up due to having no concept of sex education thanks to their fundamentalist loon of a principal. We do, however, enjoy poking them with sticks and watching them wiggle.

It might be worth noting that it is never wise to antagonise the people who control the medium in which the foolish have chosen to conduct their rant. For those people can make the stupid look even more silly than they already do. Or they could just get bored and ban them from playing with the big kids.

73: Posted by: Jeremy | March 1, 2006 3:58 AM

The witchcraft crap or whatever you call this stuff ya'll believe in is not a religion. Its a dang hobby you have to try and make people feel sorry for you and get attention from everybody saying you can do witchcraft and turn me into a frog. Ohh and by the way in America, where you don't live, the first ammendment says freedom of speech buddy so get over it. I'll get on here and say what i want to.

74: Posted by: Jeremy | March 1, 2006 4:01 AM

Also I would like to add, since you keep saying I'm going to end up in jail, I'll call you so we can be in the same one together. We could get to know each other.

75: Posted by: Feòrag | March 1, 2006 10:19 AM

Jeremy: thank you for demonstrating why, despite our equal-opportunity programme, there are more Christians featured in the Prattle than any other bunch of superstitious idiots.

Perhaps, when you learn English, you'll take some time to read all sorts of stuff, so that you can improve your comprehension skills. This last skill is really important if you don't want to look like a complete idiot.

For example, if you were able to truly understand English, but were still too lazy to check the rest of the Prattle to work out the religious beliefs of the editors, you would work out from the tone of this article (scroll up, a lot) that we are clearly not Wiccan, nor practice any form of neopaganism. I suppose it says a lot about the success of the neopagan movement that the word 'pagan' is now understood, even by the terminally thick, to mean them and has lost the older meaning of 'not Christian, Jewish or Muslim' (and the even older, original Latin meaning of 'what the hicks believe' - by this definition, modern American Christianity is pagan).

But I digress. How can you tell that we are not neopagan by actually reading the article on which you presume to comment? Normally, your school would have taught you how to do this, but your school seems to be more concerned with incubating bigotry than with equipping young people for adult life. Here's a clue: we're sarcastic about Wicca too! You see those bits about it being a popular form of petty teenage rebellion?

Now, you might have been confused, I admit, by the fact that we appear to know quite a bit about Wicca, and other neopagan traditions. Sometimes, we even appear to be sympathetic towards them. This is just a side-effect--very few neopagans ever do anything silly or bigoted enough to warrant a mention here, nor do you see them bleating on about how everyone must adjust their lives to fit in with the demands of their imaginary friends the way some Christians and Muslims do. If someone published a cartoon of the Maid, Mother and Crone having a lesbian orgy involving an enormous strap-on or two, you won't hear outrage from the neopagan community. So, they don't give us many excuses to take the piss out of them.

I have a suggestion, just for you Jeremy. Why don't you give up making an idiot of yourself for Lent (starts today, lasts 40 days)? Spend the time you waste here studying instead. Even a job a McDonalds is better than starving, and we'd rather you were able to understand the health and safety rules. It's better than assuming they don't apply to you and sticking your hand in the deep fat fryer.

76: Posted by: Ariel | March 17, 2006 12:58 PM

You peole are geting of subject. We are so post tobe talking about Mr. Bowling not each other. Let's get back on the real suject.Please. It is really beginning to get on my nerves. The only reason I am still here is to see how stupid you people really are.

77: Posted by: Feòrag | March 17, 2006 1:51 PM

Ariel: would you care to repeat that please, but in English? At the moment, you are another data point suggesting that the school is not doing its job, and that Mr. Bowling needs to be sacked and replaced with someone who cares about educational standards, not religious bigotry.

78: Posted by: Ariel | March 18, 2006 3:16 PM

Look here you jerk! I would never ever say that Mr.Bowling has not done a good job. He is doing more than a good job he is doing a great job. Do not ever put words in my mouth. trust me Mr.Bowling cares a lot about the education of us students. If he did not he would not be doing the P.R.I.D.E Program. Mr.Bowling is not the one who needs to be sacked. It's you Feorag.

79: Posted by: Feòrag | March 18, 2006 5:51 PM

Ariel, sweetikins, screaming and shouting until you are sick doesn't make anything you say bear any resemblance to reality. If he was doing such a great job, you would have understood my comment. As it is, your idiotic response demonstrates my point nicely - not only can pupils at your school not write in English, they don't understand it beyond a very basic "the cat sat on the mat" level.

If he's doing such a great job, why are so few of the pupils who have bothered to post here able to use the English language? We're not talking about the occasional error, or problems with difficult grammar - I doubt any of you even know there's a difference between 'that' and 'which', for example - but with a complete lack of ability to spell, punctuate, comprehend, or communicate in English. The standard of English I've seen from the children at your school isn't even primary school level.

As for sacking me - why? You have absolutely no idea how well I do my job. You do not even know what that job might be! As for Mr. Bowling, well, he's broken the law on religious discrimination, taught you all that it's okay to break rules if you don't agree with them, has failed to teach you basic literacy, and also failed to suggest that you stop making idiots of yourselves in public, drawing the world's attention to how atrocious the standards in your school are.

Now piss off and do some studying. There's still time to save yourself from a lifetime of fast food service.

80: Posted by: Ariel | March 21, 2006 12:38 AM

Well the reason most students who post here do not use correct English is because they do not care about there grades or how they represent the school. The reason I do not use correct English is because when I get mad I not concentrate on the grammar. Forgive me for that one statement I made about you being sacked. I was not useing my mind then.
Sorry. Please do not use me as an example of my school. There are much better people than me. Forgive me for even being here I had no business saying anything. Sorry again.

81: Posted by: Val Dobson | March 21, 2006 4:19 PM

Hey Ariel, we're not in the business of forgiving here. You've had the guts to say sorry, and that's fine (by me, anyway).
"There are nmuch better people than me" at your school? Well, not many of them have dropped by yet. If the ones who have posted here are representative, you are actually one of the better ones. Don't put yourself down!

82: Posted by: Codi | March 22, 2006 1:04 AM

Hey,
I go to Priceville High School. I am one of Ariel's best friends. The reason I decided to post was so that you could here somthing that is not for or against Mr.Bowling. He has broken the law in his decision to not let Ricky have his club. This is not acceptible in today's society. As a adminstrator he has done everything he can, but time after time he comes up short. He does his best to encourage the students to do their best but in return waste money. In short he did brake the law sorry to anybody who disagrees.

83: Posted by: Melanie | March 31, 2006 7:46 AM

I have just moved to Alabama. I found Mr. Bowling's name while searching for a job. I "googled" his name to find out more about him and that is how I ended up on this site. I have read all of the postings about this subject in one sitting so I may confuse some things as it was a lot of information to take in all at once...

I will also admit that I do not know how to make the accent appear over the correct letter in your name and I will take the time to learn it, just not right now, as it is very late. So, I mean no disrespect with the misspelling of it. With that disclaimer in place I would like to clear up what I have read as best as I can with the ADULT and EDUCATED understanding that I have on it so far.

Jeremy, Aerial(sp), and any other classmates of Priceville High... Jeremy mentioned, that Mr. Bowling asked him not to worry about this site. Mr. Bowling probably (assuming) asked you to do that because he is accountable for his actions not you. Also, I don't think these guys (now assuming gender) mean any harm to you or your principal. They own this site and do not live in this country. You (as an American-Jeremy) do have the right to free speech. That right however stops when you leave the US. You then have to listen to the rules of the country you have arrived in. As far as this site is concerned (assuming and trying to help you all) they own it, they can delete anything they like in all or in part because this site is international (World Wide Web) which means that US rules may not and probably do not apply to them! They stated repeatedly what to write and what you can't write and have thus far been pretty fair. I would suggest that the word fu** be taken out as a respectful request since these are American kids and that word is not allowed here when dealing with students even though I know that does not apply to you it is simply a request. Thank you for your consideration of the matter.

Now, to take the students' side for a moment. They are, whether they like it or not and agree or not, kids/students and you are an adult(s). I agree and will note that as an educator I would like to see them take more pride and time in their writing to display the knowledge I know they have at least heard before, but as adults, do you have to bash them so badly to get your point across? I know, I know. It is your site. Please do as you wish, but we really could all learn from one another here instead of bashing so harshly. I would like to take a stand with them as far as the ...you are too young to make a decision... statement. I know that you are aware of their beliefs, so you know that "I am a Christian" is an American way to proclaim your faith and is probably the only way they know how to proclaim it at this point because our educational system is behind on the discipline, language, and career aspects when compared to countries such as Japan where (stereotype..)Japanese children learn English faster than some of our own. And you also know that Americans believe "we have the right" to almost everything so that these American children are taking part in their society and culture and can not be blamed and should not be made fun of for it. I am proud of them for choosing a side and standing up for it. It is not always easy. I will tell you (students) how to make it easier though. Create your own Web Site where you CAN use your American freedoms to post your opinions. Use this as an educational experience. Research and study the laws and cultures of other countries just for the heck of it so that you understand that our freedoms here do not cross into their territories. It is not or at least should not be a question of who is right or wrong, it is a fact that different cultures believe different things and act differently when put into similar situations.

As far as the "law-breaking" is concerned...
I will have to research further, but I believe you are both correct but leaving some things out.

Yes, there is an American law about discriminating against one for their religious beliefs. However, the kids were correct also, if a teacher in this school in this state, does not sponsor a group such as the one in question, then it will not become a "school" sponsored function or group. So, following protocol, if "Ricky" can not get an adult at his school to sponsor his club, then it will not happen. Also, the school does have FCA because a teacher sponsored it. Teachers and Principals in this state are more likely to sponsor a Christian club because a higher percentage of those individuals are Christians themselves seeing as how this state is in the middle of the "Bible Belt". Also, a more important fact, is about the separation of church and state. Mr. Bowling can not make decisions like the one he is accused of without approval from a list of other individuals like his superintendent, school board, and furthermore, the supreme court. I am sure that he is following his protocol and policy (even though he may enjoy the results).

I, in no way endorse any religion or views of religion, only the facts that surround them in this country and I am not in any way affiliated with Mr. Bowling or his school. I simply wanted to add my opinions to your forum. Thank you.

PS- Any mistakes that you find should be blamed on the spellchecker you suggested..or on the fact that I should have been asleep hours ago.

84: Posted by: Melanie | March 31, 2006 8:05 AM

Since I am in this "for the learning"...

What is Wicca and where did it originate?

As an American Educator (with self-taught morals), I know to respect other cultures and the diversities in my classroom. I can not do my job unless I try to understand each culture that I hear of, so, please try to stick to the facts. I hope that I do not come across as stupid, only ignorant of the subject because of the lack of opportunity to learn it.

85: Posted by: Melanie | March 31, 2006 8:31 AM

To the students of Priceville high that have posted on this site. I plea to you for your undivided attention. Feel free to express your anger and opinions. It is healthy and educational to do so. It will not be truly educational though, until you also learn to listen. Know that your anger and opinions will probably be deleted/edited from this and any other personal site that you do not own. I do not wish to discourage you in your fight. I only wish to help so that your opinions are heard and are meaningful when expressed.

You have both said that you do not care about your grammar while typing. I don't either. Feel free to type however and whenever you wish. As friendly advise, I wish you would visit the spellchecker that was suggested and then copy and paste your views into the comment box you are given for this site. The only reason I wish you would do that is so that you will be taken seriously. I know you don't care what it looks like, and neither do your friends. But this forum/chat that you have found yourselves posting to is an international site, where international people read it and even if you didn't want to be, you have become the spokesmen/women for your school since you are the only ones posting on its behalf. Therefore, take the pride that I understand you to have and put it in the thought and time that you spend typing. If you do this, we could all read it better, understand your points more clearly and you would be helping instead of hurting the case. Keep standing up for your beliefs! Do not take my word for it, your principal's word for it, or anyone else's word for it. Take it all in stride and then go and study and research and sit in a room until you come to a conclusion of your own with the knowledge you gained by reading about the subject instead of the knowledge and pressure of your peers. Search for your OWN opinions in everything not just this. But, these guys are right, the rest of the world views your typing as their first impression of you and if we honestly can't understand it then we can't learn from you and your ideas.

Again, I will try not to endorse or advertise any religion or non religion as greater or worse than the other, but I do also, wish to say to the kids...

If you are in fact Christians as you say you are and I believe that you are committed to that, then know that Christians (according to your new testament) are not asked to fight on the Lord's behalf. Yes you are supposed to witness. But to witness about anything, you have to listen twice as much as you talk, that is why you have two ears and one mouth, so sayeth your bible. Also, your Bible will tell you that the Lord can fight his own battles. You just need to focus on yourselves during this troubled time for your school and your principal that you obviously care about so deeply. There is no need to argue. You stated that you are opposed to the opinions expressed by this site, so take your opinions and turn them into actions and good deeds whether they are religion based or not and fight for your principal on your home turf where the result will do some good for you and your friends.

86: Posted by: Ariel | April 10, 2006 11:01 PM

Hey,Melanie what you said about fight on your on turf I for one am doing so. It is not geting anywhere. The ony good thing is when I showed that I like Mr. Bowling my friends desided thay did to. Besides that nothing has changed. I have already showed here that most of the time I do not use my head but trust me when I say even when Mr. Bowling dose weird things that he still is a good man and a very good principal. Again if you do not think so that is you opinion. If you despise him for what the news said then you have some problems. The news will do any thing to get a good story. No mater how it herts.

87: Posted by: David | June 6, 2006 6:32 PM

Mr. "Guy" Bowling apparently also disagrees with the right of students to cheer for their friends during a "P.R.I.D.E." program. Which me and bob who commented earlier about being suspended for earlier disruption was involved in. I also met Mr. Bob Balch the other day, who is also running for superintendent, and he told me personally that it doesn't matter who gets elected superintendent as long as it isn't Guy Bowling.

88: Posted by: Ariel | June 15, 2006 4:41 PM

The reason Mr.B did not let them cheer for there friends is because he thought they were just trying to get attention. You are right it does not matter who gets superintendent It will all be the same.Thanks for listening.Forget what I have said before on the other comments I was being stupid, except for when I said Mr. Bowling Is awesome. Cause He is. SO HA!!

89: Posted by: Feòrag | June 15, 2006 5:43 PM

Ariel: seeing as your "awesome" principal is still failing to do his job, let me help:

cheer for there friends should read cheer for their friends.

Sentences should end with a period. Whenever you remember this, note that there should be a space after the period. This sentence exists so that you have an example to look at.

While you might have a high opinion of Mr. Bowling, he is not God, therefore "he" should not be capitalised. "Is" should only be capitalised at the start of the sentence, or if it's a proper noun - I have a friend with a cat called Is, for example.

Thinking about it, these might not be Mr. Bowling's fault, as you should've done all this in elementary school.

The sentence starting "Forget" could do with some punctuation to make the meaning clear. As an exercise, can you work out where to put this handy hyphen? —

90: Posted by: Ariel | June 16, 2006 5:12 PM

Sorry simple mistake. Your right, my stupid mistakes are my fault and no one else. OK. Do not blame Mr. B or any one for that mater for my mistakes. Please. I did not say Mr. B was God. No offence but that is just a stupid suggestion. As good as some people think they are no one compares to God not now not ever.

91: Posted by: L Marlin Bowling | October 28, 2006 5:33 AM

Lord or someone help us all.

92: Posted by: Leslie | June 12, 2007 9:46 PM

i don't even know if this debate is still going on, i just came across it recently while web surfing. but, i just figured i would throw my two cents in, wanted or not. i couldn't help but notice how the debate first talked about religion, and then it went on a completely different path and that's when America started being insulted. as an American, it does offend me. i go to priceville as well, and while no one particularly LOVES school, i do get a great education there, believe it or not. just because our educational system is run differently than other countries, doesn't necessarily mean we all have a combined IQ level of 2. having never been to an American public school, it really isn't your place to insult them. i have never been to a public or private school in any other country, so i am not going to say anything negative about them. i'm higher than that. it is also not your place to doubt someone else's faith. i am seventeen years old, and i know that isn't "adult age," but it still doesn't mean i can't grasp the concept of Christianity. i am perfectly capable of making my OWN decisions about MY FAITH. there should be NO age limit when it comes to religion. who are you to say that your religious beliefs are more believable simply because you may, by law, be an adult? who are you to down a CHILD anyway? these are CHILDREN by law, as well. what mature adult would spend hours online doing nothing more than finding ways to insult the intelligence of children years younger than them? i happen to know the people all of you "adults" have insulted. they are very intelligent people, and it is not your place or right to judge a person's intleligence solely by their typing skills. now that is immature. also, spelling has nothing to do with intelligence. absolutely nothing. honestly, i couldn't care less about Mr. Bowling. and just because his inability to accept other religions has been broadcasted, it doesn't necessarily mean all Christians are that narrow minded. i am a Christian. i don't prance around throwing my so-called superiority in non-Christian's faces, and so many other Christians i know are just as accepting. i have many friends who haven't "found God" and it doesn't lessen my opinion of them in anyway. it is very narrow minded of all of you to base your opinion on Christianity...from the internet comments of teenagers who are simply defending their own beliefs and their FRIENDS, just like you. we all have that right, American or British. act like adults, and don't lower yourself to the level of INSULTING teenagers. you are the narrow minded, unintelligent amoebas, NOT them. i love God (shocker, i know, being seventeen years old and otherwise completely incompetent when it comes to making personal decisions about my faith, according to you fools), but i am also accepting and positive towards other religions. no, i don't have lines and lines of Bible verses memorized to spout out throughout the day, and no, i don't know word for word every Bible story that was ever written, but that still doesn't change the fact that i love and believe in God with all my heart and soul. also, i happen to be quite intelligent, and i can comprehend, speak, write and type English quite well, correct capitalization and occassional typo or not. :) it is going to be my major in college, because i've always had a passion for it. and yes, we do write essays to get LOOKED at for college. and they are time consuming and incredibly difficult and there is much more to the process of being picked and accepted. but it isn't like you'd looked into that enough to understand. stop being such difficult and haughty assfucks. you're not that special with your non-beliefs, anyway. at least Christians have something to look forward to when they die, and when someone we love dies, we at least have the comfort that while we must be without them, they are no longer suffering and are in a better place. i'd say that's loads better than rotting in the ground after a short eighty or so years of existence. you're all just sad, selfish, little pathetic horse shits unhappy with the fact that you've been unable to find something to live for other than yourselves. and i mean "shits" quite literally. ;)

93: Posted by: Red Wolf | June 13, 2007 2:30 AM

::sigh:: Just when you think the trolls have lost interest, yet another one raises it's ugly head.

Leslie appears to be suffering from either a short attention span or some form of psychosis. Religion is mentioned a lot, so we can assume he, she or it (let's assume female, as the male form of Leslie is somewhat out of fashion) already has a problem with self-delusion.

She also seems completely incapable of reading the fucking post and accompanying comments, and like all good mindless sheep has cherry-picked the ones she assumes support her drivel.

Leslie seems to have taken the hump with our criticism of ill-educated, mindless Americans and people who've been force-fed a belief in an invisible friend. We didn't point and laugh at Americans in general, but at Americans in particular. Those Americans being the dim-witted ones who attempted to argue their case with no support base to stand on. Their arguments were purile and childish and were pointed out as such with much laughter.

I'm quite amused by Leslie's initial desire to engage in a thoughtful rebuttal that soon sunk into a mire of childish name-calling. Oh dear, she really hasn't helped to prove that the appalling education standards at Priceville has improved. She also failed to address the illegal actions of her principal, which was the point of the post.

We can tell that Leslie is a Christian of the We are all individuals variety, because she follows what must be basic bampot formatting for whiny rants.

The inability to use an uppercase I, I'll put down to typically, teenaged behaviour of doing silly things because they assume it's cute. It's not.

Using uppercase to highlight a rant, doesn't so much highlight relevant points, so much as make the author look like a moron. See that bit above the comment form about which bits of HTML are accepted? It appears that Leslie didn't and opted to tell the world that she's a wee bit thick.

Another giveaway that you're dealing with a bampot is their complete inability to use carriage returns. Dumping a huge lump of text on a page is inconsiderate to other readers. It shows a lack of respect for anyone else who may wish to actually read what you have to say but are now unable to do so because you've made their eyes bleed. Perhaps this is why it's a staple of ignorant, ranting missives from people who claim a belief in an invisible friend.

We should probably be grateful she didn't manage to change colours or set the font to Comic Sans.

All in all, it looks like Priceville is still a breeding ground for the drooling masses who mistakenly believe that screeching I'm a Christian is an excuse for the lack of educational standards at the school.

Amusingly enough, the comment was culled as spam by the bestiality filter, perhaps due to the bampot calling us horse shits. Far be it from me to assume they have some strange bestiality obsession at Priceville.

94: Posted by: A Voice of Sanity | September 8, 2008 6:11 PM

I hate to add to this but since the newspaper page is gone you might wish to grab a copy complete with pictures from The Wayback Machine (LINK) while you can. And I suppose I should point out that any resume (CV) written in broken English by any of these poor saps will hit the shredder in mere moments.